As we learned way back in 2012, new American Idol judges Mariah Carey and Nicki Minaj are NOT THE BESTEST OF FRIENDSIES. In fact, they appear to truly despise each other. There was some speculation after the “leaked” video hit the web that it may have just been some publicity fodder for the new season, and that the feud (like every other emotion on that show) was fabricated for ratings.

However, unlike the pretend fights we’ve seen on other reality shows, the beef between the 90s Queen of Pop and the current Queen of Hip Hop may actually be real. In an interview with Barbara Walters, Mariah had some choice words to describe her current co-judge. Here, presented in .gif form, we give you the most insulting-without-being-insulting answer to an interview question ever:

EEEESH. Need some ice for that burn, Nicki? I don’t know about you, but I can totally picture her at home on the couch, wearing this, and clenching her veneers so hard they’re about to crack. I don’t watch American Idol, but I might just tune in to see this carnage.

Oh wait.

OH GOD. THE ADVERTISING IS WORKING.